Anyone who likes bicycling, hiking, looking at art, whatever...
I"m in Berkeley...
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Eris
  • Re: Bay Area woman seeking Trans friends

    Mon, November 5, 2007 - 9:52 PM
    i might be down. My name is julie. i am also in Berkeley. i love exploring and walking around new places, particularly if they happened to be abandoned or in wild places. Or maybe you could even show me how to shoot. How come you specifically want trans friends to hang out with?
    • Re: Bay Area woman seeking Trans friends

      Fri, December 28, 2007 - 9:03 AM
      hi to both of you i am a intersexed female in oakland ca, if any of you want to learn more feel free to write me, i also like abandone places or wild places or even haunted places!!!! fun fun fun!!!!
      • Re: Bay Area woman seeking Trans friends

        Fri, January 11, 2008 - 4:29 PM
        Hmmm since Julie opened the forum for questionins...I've got a few of my own....like yeah, why's a dpw hottie like yourself looking for trans friends?....why are you so hot? and what defines trans for you? Doe's crossdressing count? (of course not....math counts, spelling spells) anyhow back to our regularly scheduled program....I think I have a little tribe crush on you and have wanted to meet you but have been afraid to say anything about it until now and the reason I am felling such bravado is basically because of EXTREME boredome as in I had too much reverie over the holidays (WAY too much) and now am paying the price with a nasty head cold and have been kicking it at home for like three days which is driving me nuts!!!!! So yeah...on my other real, not fantasy tribe profile we seem to have a lot off friends in common...well a few anyways....and what counts for Bay Area, being kinda recently TRANSplanted here from the wilds of the intermountain west, I'm not quite sure, is Santa Cruz still 'Bay Area' or do we get our own classification? It's totally close enough to roll up to the city for parties but I don't know about hiking or bike rides.....oh....and how do you feel about run on sentences?
        • Re: Bay Area woman seeking Trans friends

          Mon, January 14, 2008 - 12:59 AM
          Why are people so suspicious of Eris seeking trans friends? She came to the right place, no?
          • Re: Bay Area woman seeking Trans friends

            Mon, January 14, 2008 - 10:10 AM
            >> Why are people so suspicious of Eris seeking trans friends? She came to the right place, no? <<

            Years ago, when I was ... well I'm still naive, but when I was much more naive than I am now... in my early 20's, I once tried to ask some legitimate questions of a group of lesbians for no reason other than my own curiosity. I wanted to know. And on some level my wanting to know usually (if not always) is connected to my wanting to help people. I've always been very interested in social change, both locally and globally, in part I'm sure because I've always been so in-tune with discrimination because of having been the geeky, picked on, outcast kid in school and that really sort of never changing much as I got older (which it turns out is probably because I'm autistic -- I'm pursuing an official diagnosis currently). I realized in retrospect that it really didn't matter how innocuous (or benevolent even) my intentions were with regard to that particular group of lesbians. Each of them had certain experiences, whether real or imagined, that had convinced them that it was impossible for anyone with external equipment to have any intention other than the ulterior motive of working their way into the cliche fantasy of having sex with two lesbians. So it didn't matter how I had phrased my questions - as long as I identified myself honestly as male, the only response I would get was deafening silence. It really bothered me at the time. I'm a bit calmer about it now. I still find myself a bit disheartened when I introduce myself and nobody even says "hi", but I'm not surprised by it anymore and I don't obsess about it the way I did back then. Now I just accept that people have their expectations about my motives and however incorrect they are I probably can't change them.
            • Re: Bay Area woman seeking Trans friends

              Wed, January 16, 2008 - 9:12 AM
              Well, if you know how she feels, isn't it a bit weird to perpetuate the behavior that you've encountered with dissatisfaction yourself? I'm asking this rhetorically, because you didn't post a remark questioning Eris.
              • Re: Bay Area woman seeking Trans friends

                Fri, January 18, 2008 - 12:26 AM
                >>> Well, if you know how she feels, isn't it a bit weird to perpetuate the behavior that you've encountered with dissatisfaction yourself? I'm asking this rhetorically, because you didn't post a remark questioning Eris. <<<

                Umm... she said she wanted to hang out with trans folks... I'm a) not anywhere near her and b) not trans. So I don't feel that I am perpetuating that behavior. I would certainly reply to her directly if she expressed an interest in hearing from me directly -- or in hearing on a subject that I feel I have some useful information about.
          • Re: Bay Area woman seeking Trans friends

            Mon, January 14, 2008 - 6:16 PM
            i will say that suspicious is not particularly what i was feeling. i actually was just curious. It's like although i do sex work i don't really understand the allure of most porn or why johns pay for it. i am constantly wondering about this. In the same way i don't quite understand what the allure of trans folks is for cis people. Sometimes i specifically seek out other trans folks because there is a certain validation and kinship i can sometimes feel with some of us. There is an understanding where i don't have to explain certain things. But what is the draw or attraction for others that don't relate in this way? This is my curiosity. While i'm at it, i would like to point out that asking a question with nothing else attached to it is often not a sign of suspicion. Also, i'm still curious and have never received a reply about hanging out or a response to my question.
            • Re: Bay Area woman seeking Trans friends

              Mon, January 14, 2008 - 6:37 PM
              I'm not trans or honestly cis either... I may be closer to cis than trans, but I'm really more androgyne than anything. I have had a number of trans friends over the years however, which is probably largely responsible for my interest in this and other trans tribes. I have enough "dating" issues of my own being likely autistic (dating is a huge problem for a lot of aspies), but the more I understand about the subject in general and in lots of different contexts, then perhaps the more I'll have to contribute to help not only myself but others as well. Tiff and I almost dated a trans woman once (actually I don't know that she was technically trans -- she was a merm, born intersexed) -- we were intimate briefly -- but the chemistry wasn't right between us for a long term relationship. But it really wasn't about being turned on by trannies or having a "trannie fetish" -- she was a friend and there was potential for a relationship. Beyond that in our case honestly the physical equipment is pretty superfluous. Male, female, trans, merm, apples, oranges, peaches, pears... fruit salad :)
            • Re: Bay Area woman seeking Trans friends

              Wed, January 16, 2008 - 9:19 AM
              "Also, i'm still curious and have never received a reply about hanging out or a response to my question."

              I wouldn't have answered it myself. I don't really have any TS friends. I'm friendly with a few but none that I hang up with or chat. If I made a post similar to Eris's, would I be questioned in the same way?

              Just because you don't have similar experiences with someone due to someone being trans, is that the necessary point for building a friendship? As I said, I don't have any TS friends and I transitioned over 9 years ago. None of my friends have any idea about some of the TS stuff, yet that's never hindered my friendships with any of them.

              Maybe I'm looking at things from the wrong angle, but I find the reactions here to be strange in my opinion, especially for a tribe of this name, subject matter and intent. Now if it was a "TS Porno" tribe, that might be a bit different.

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